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Markhopeful
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Markhopeful Posted on 17 Mar 2011, 21:11
Yep the season ticket is only 532, but when you buy it you agree to buy all the home cup games, average for Man U is 10 per season. Add that all together and all of a sudden that 532 is a lot closer to a grand.
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Cheesestic
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Cheesestic Posted on 18 Mar 2011, 20:34
The new season is under way! This is what I've learned so far.



- That first weekend was the dullest opening weekend I can remember. It
was dire. The quality level was just appalling. I am also finding it
hard to get excited by Norwich.



- Two weekends in and already fans have loudly booed at Everton, Arsenal
and Chelsea!! Why not give it a chance yeah? And booing at Stamford
Bridge is just evil.



- Apparently people don't hate Man City for trying to buy the title in
the same way people hated Chelski. I think this is for two reasons.
Firstly Man City have such ridiculous amounts that it is actually likely
that they can buy ANYONE. Meaning it is not too absurd to think that
Messi or Schweinsteiger would turn up. Secondly, in spite of Balotelli
being a twat, Chelski were hateable because they had a good couple of
utter ***** in their team. John Terry - ****. Drogba - **** who always
fell over. Robben - big headed ****. Ballack - German. Anelka -
miserable **** who apparently thinks his hands are a pigeon. Mourinho -
professional ****. Ashley Cole - arrogant ****. Joe Cole and Shaun
Wright Phillips - ***** in way over their heads.



- Villa looked pretty good. Which is odd considering who their manager is. Looked well up for it.



- Andy Carroll cost more than Sergio Aguerro. One of those people is
phenomenal and might be the most exciting out-and-out striker in the
World right now. The other one has only ever played half a season of top
flight football - and not very well - and is clearly the white Emile
Heskey.



- Nobody can adequately explain to me why it's been okay to pay $30
million on English shit, but nothing for better foreign players. The
best I've heard is that you pay more for English players because they
can get away with diving.



- Everton had the finest start to a season in decades by having their
opening game postponed and therfore not losing. Do they have some sort
of Egyptian curse at the start of each season? Why do they start so
poorly every single year? Mind you they played without a striker again -
which is madness. Cue the next 8 loses.



- Berbatov still isn't being picked and is not for sale? I don't get it.



- Vrom - Swansea's goalkeeper - already looks shit hot. De Gea - Manure's keeper - looks terrified.



- Liverpool sucked arse in pre season. They looked hopeless. This might
be because Liverpool insisted on buying every mediocre
not-even-overrated midfielder in the league for silly money, and then
choosing to hoof the ball Wimbledon style to Andy Carroll. I would never
ever have bought Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam and Stewart Downing for
half the price they were paid for. Ever. Charlie Adam as the lynch pin
midfielder? He's supposed to be our new Xabi Alonso. Sigh.



- Samir Nasri apparently likes money and sitting on the bench.



- English commentary is now blessed with the expertise of Gary Neville
and Jamie Redknapp on Sky, and Alan Shearer and (shudder) Garth ****ing
Crooks for the BBC. All of whom are apparently taking five from a disco
they are at to mutter blandly about how someone shit (current rave
English player) is the best player on Earth. I am totally bewildered as
to why Shearer and Crooks are on television. Dull and bad at it. Also,
the fact that Alan Shearer has already said, "it looks like City might
have already won this thing" after beating Swansea and Bolton makes him
ineligible to be near a microphone.



- Arsenal are beyond stupid. Everyone and their dog knew Cesc was
leaving. They also knew what Arsenal ALWAYS do wrong. But still Wenger
didn't do anything about it. But the icing on the cake is that Wenger
went along with Barcelona in buying one of the best young midfielders in
the World for **** all money. He could have put him up for sale and got
twice as much from Barca. Arsenal are clearly ****ed behind the scenes
because all their quality players realize this and then try and leave.
Arsene used to buy talent so something is up. But lets face it - if
Arsenal lose to Udinese and Manure this week they will be out of the
champions League and bottom of the Premier League. Ouch.



- Theo Walcott starts each game brightly and twenty minutes later
becomes invisible. It's then you realise that he, Aaron Lennon and Shaun
Wright Phillips are supposed to be good because they can ran fast. Yet
somehow their coaches have overlooked the part about having no control
and not being able to pass for toffee.



- Apparently, even though you make 60k a week, you don't have to play
football if, "your head isn't in the right place." Especially silly for
someone who renegotiated his contract 8 months ago. and signed a SIX
YEAR EXTENSION.



- Jamie Carragher is now so slow I'm not sure he's actually moving.



- I just heard Harry Redknapp say that he needs four new players. FOUR!!!



- Edin Dzeko looks like he might score a crap load this year. He looked
like Juan Pablo Angel last year. This year he looks well up for it.



- How does Kieron Dyer get paid? He has played 3 times in 3 years and
still makes 80k a week. And I'm still confused as to how Spurs can let
Woodgate go for being injured permanently but keeping Ledley King who is
injured more often AND Spurs allow to actually go play with England as
well.



- David Silva might be better than me at football.



- Despite the ridiculous talent at Man City Gareth Bary is a starter.
Which must mean he's very good. I hear people say he's shit. I imagine
he couldn't give a toss. What it does prove is that football is a squad
game, and that Barca pick Busquets for a reason even though everyone
knows he just collects and passes on. James Milner also fits this
description.
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Markhopeful
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Markhopeful Posted on 18 Mar 2011, 20:52
Just to make things clear in my response, I am an Arsenal fan, a season ticket holder and I get to a few away games where I can as well so what follows could be very biased. 
Top 4 finish consistently not too bad for a team with a strict pay structure and no big name signings for a few years, possibly since Denis God Bergkamp, in fact he probably was the last real big household name to be signed. That reportedly was Arsene Wengers first signing even though Bruce Rioch was the manager he was only taking care of things while Wenger saw out his contract in Japan. The policy at Arsenal is to only offer 1 year extensions to players that hit 30, A solid policy for the club but one that sees most of the older players move on, I cannot recall any of our older players moving on to do much better anywhere else but I don't suppose they can be blamed for wanting longer contracts. Many of the players you listed all left the club and with the exception of Cashley none went anywhere and had a more successful time.

Barcelona offered less money last season for Fabregas, I also think a deal was done last year with Cesc if we won nothing go, I do agree though forward planning we should have had a player ready to step into his boots, I genuinely think Wenger thought he could hang on to him.

The price after Saturday for any player Arsenal are interested in went up millions if and I do mean if because I am not convinced we will sign anyone, we do get in a position to buy the desperate need for players is almost an open invitation to take the piss on prices a situation where the blame lies solely with Arsenal. Nasri has gone today subject to medical which means so far this window Arsenal have sold 7 players for a combined price of 72.5 million, we have bought in 4 players combined price of 23.5 million so 49 million profit and a reported transfer fund of between 40 and 50 million before the window opened. I make that still around 90 to 100 million, so I don't see transfer fees being a problem other than Wengers stubbornness in only paying what he values a player at. 

The current situation, Wenger has made the whole thing worse, I was and to a certain degree still am in the "In Wenger We Trust" camp, but my patience has come to an end, I feel this is a make or break season for Arsenal and Arsene no trophies and I think the club will have no choice but to look elsewhere for a new manager or come out and say that the funds have not been available. I believe that Arsenal now have paid off most if not all of the Emirates debt, they make approximately 3 million in gate receipts per game plus whatever gets sold in the shops and food stands, they also have Arsenal Holdings which is a very successful property company that just sold a plot of land near the Emirates to Barrats for 50 million, I really feel that money is not a problem especially as our 2 major share holders are extremely wealthy men. And no I do not want to see them, give the club a blank cheque for players. At the moment the fans are completely disillusioned we will pay 12 million for a 17 year old for the future but will not offer 20 million for Cahil, or Jagielka, that being the case I would love someone to give me the date when "the future starts".
One thing widely reported in the press is the outrage at the season ticket price hike for this year, press reporting 13000 season tickets not renewed fans leaving in droves, Arsenal season ticket highest in the league, all stories that add to the "Club in crisis" headlines everywhere. I doubt anyone was happy with the 6.5% price rise for this season but the official number of tickets not renewed was 2000, the press doesn't take into account that unemployment is rising and spare cash is hard to find for many at the moment, the other thing is Arsenal tickets must be paid in full in June there are no provisions in place to spread the cost over the year. My season ticket which is the cheapest in the stadium costs 989 but we get 26 games on that ticket, all FA Cup and Champions league games are covered (not that we may need them this year) if we only play 23 games we get a refund of 3 games off of next years ticket, if we play more the price is added to next years, so game for game our tickets are cheaper than Man U, Spurs, Chelsea, Man City to name a few QPR put their tickets up over 40% per game this year. Also we only pay 10 per game in the Carling cup. It all reads a little different when the facts are reported unfortunately at the moment the press do not seem interested in facts about Arsenal just where the next headline comes from.

I think I answered everything need to lie down now.
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thecreature
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thecreature Posted on 18 Mar 2011, 21:11
Cheapest season ticket at Old Trafford is 532 quid. The most expensive is only 950.

http://www.manutd.com/en/Tickets-And...n-Tickets.aspx
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Cheesestic
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Cheesestic Posted on 18 Mar 2011, 21:12
8 - 2? 

Surely that's it for Wenger's policy now mate ? Let's be clear - Arsenal are supported by two multi-billionaires around a structure of not paying high wages, fees or transfers. And they are tanking. Today they played a younger team - the very thing Arsene has been trying and failing to build since 2004 - and got molested. Time to stop pretending that Wenger knows.
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Markhopeful
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Markhopeful Posted on 18 Mar 2011, 21:13
Arsenal have 3 days to make some pretty big, important signings, In Arsene we trust has finally finished for a lot of fans (me included), Sign players or bring in a new manager only 2 options I can see.
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Cheesestic
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Cheesestic Posted on 18 Mar 2011, 21:14
Hey not to worry. I'm sure the signing of Park Cho-Young was just what you were hoping for.

Seriously though mate - that was brutal. What a way to go out.

I say that because the first thing Wenger said was that he didn't seem to think they needed to buy. 

On the bright side though - Wenger had that coat on that looked like a sleeping bag.
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Cheesestic
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Cheesestic Posted on 18 Mar 2011, 21:15
Oh good Lord no - United look phenomenal this year. Even Rooney actually is looking like he did in his first year for Manure if you count the last part of last season as well. Cleverley looks shit hot. Add look at that early substitution - Wellbeck (clearly confident and raring to bang them in) comes off for Chicharito - that's a damn good sub! As good and dangerous as Citeh look so far it's United who look like they've been playing as this unit for years. People are already talking about a two-horse race. Which is silly - mostly it's a one horse race with the new boys still a step behind. Arsenal aren't a bad side - they just have obvious weaknesses and Ferguson and his players brilliantly exposed that.
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UncleEben
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UncleEben Posted on 18 Mar 2011, 21:16
I think ManU played as well as I have seen them play in recent years. I put it down to Rooney's new hair.

Man City looked pretty well drilled (except for their habit of picking up stupid and unnecessary yellow cards), though Spurs were abysmal and helped them look better than they were. Not in United's league.

I also thought Liverpool looked efficient, in dispatching Bolton - good for a top four placing this year, I think.

On a side note, I hear Ruddy, Norwich's goalie, is being transferred to UFC.
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pompybird Posted on 18 Mar 2011, 21:17
Could we use the term 'below par' rather than 'abysmal' please.....
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