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Weeze

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Weeze Posted on 15 Mar 2014, 18:07

I wonder how many screenplays are being furiously worked on.

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MMcD.

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MMcD. Posted on 15 Mar 2014, 18:08

Having experienced more than my fair share of airplane mishaps....my imagination keeps strapping me into a seat on that plane enduring the unendurable ......

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GordonBarlow

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GordonBarlow Posted on 15 Mar 2014, 18:09

The latest update on the Diego Garcia speculation ties the hi-jacking with the US's missing nukes from a while back. Load them on, add a few Iranian passports (to be found undamaged, like the Iraqi one found on the rubble of the Twin Towers), and a new false-flag... Well, as always - who knows? No sillier than most of the theories floating around (no pun intended).

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jamesmc

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jamesmc Posted on 17 Mar 2014, 18:10

What about the 5 tons of Chinese gold on board in cargo,....thats alot of money, .
Plenty of people in the world would kill all the people on board for a lot less money.
hijack the plane ...depressurize the passenger cabin killing all passengers on board ,ditch plane on island/sea ,unload the gold and bobs your uncle.

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Boomhauer

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Boomhauer Posted on 17 Mar 2014, 18:11

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Originally Posted by jamesmc

What about the 5 tons of Chinese gold on board in cargo,....thats alot of money, .
Plenty of people in the world would kill all the people on board for a lot less money.
hijack the plane ...depressurize the passenger cabin killing all passengers on board ,ditch plane on island/sea ,unload the gold and bobs your uncle.

Where did you hear about gold on the plane?

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jamesmc

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jamesmc Posted on 17 Mar 2014, 18:12

It was on XM sattelite radio ...the gold belonged to the chinese government ,,well so the report said. just remembered the report mentioned $135millions worth

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Tegwyn

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Tegwyn Posted on 17 Mar 2014, 18:13

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Originally Posted by jamesmc

What about the 5 tons of Chinese gold on board in cargo,....thats alot of money, .
Plenty of people in the world would kill all the people on board for a lot less money.
hijack the plane ...depressurize the passenger cabin killing all passengers on board ,ditch plane on island/sea ,unload the gold and bobs your uncle.

Being part of the gold mining industry, I find it extremely hard to believe that gold was loaded on a passenger jetliner, never mind one that is not a part of the Chinese fleet. Can't go into details but the security process of transporting cargo such as this would be the last thing any precious metals refining company would risk. Not only that, the pilot (especially commercial passenger) would be the very last to know what is being transported. Traditional removal of this cargo would NEVER happen in a highly exposed area, and a passenger terminal is absolutely highly exposed. I know the Chinese cut corners in many areas but they are not stupid.

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Pulaski

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Pulaski Posted on 17 Mar 2014, 18:14

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Originally Posted by Boomhauer

Where did you hear about gold on the plane?

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Originally Posted by jamesmc

It was on XM sattelite radio ...the gold belonged to the chinese government ,,well so the report said. just remembered the report mentioned $135millions worth

I Googled it, and all I could come up with was some speculative chatter in the (public-posted) comments under a MH370 story that said nothing about any gold.

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GordonBarlow

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GordonBarlow Posted on 17 Mar 2014, 18:15

This might be a useful way to explain some bank's missing gold! If the story has legs, they might use it again...
(Last month I posted a blog called "All the gold there is in Fort Knox". The title was deliberately ironic, since I doubt there is any left there, these days!)

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Pulaski

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Pulaski Posted on 17 Mar 2014, 18:16

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The part that I am still confused about is how the possible flight arc has been determined for MF370. I believe ACARS data has GPS coordinates but ACARS data was disabled. Also it is my understanding that GPS coordinates are produced by three different satellite IDs along with a time stamps that produce three different circles and the point that the circles intersect produces the GPS coordinates.

However even though ACARS data was turned off, apparently the ACARS low level handshaking (referred to as a ping) still occurs between the plane and satellites and it appears that someone figured out how long it took for the handshaking to occur allowing a circle from one satellite communications to take and therefore allowing a GPS circle to be created. A circle is created since all points on that circle have the same delay time. Apparently if they can find more satellites that communicated with MF370 ACARS, the GPS position of the plane can be determined (3 satellites required to get exact GPS coordinates).

How the circle was technically produced appears to be a secret and that is why everything is so vague.

I have been thinking the same thing myself as there are a number of discrepancies and uncertainties in the "satellite ping" story, not least that it seems extremely improbable that a plane, any plane, would track a fictitious circle on the surface of the earth unless specifically programmed to do so, and in this case I don't think anyone on the plane even knew the satellite was there, tracking it. Also I assume there is some margin of error, so it would be interesting to know what the corridor width is, and whether a straight line (great circle) could have created the "circular" flight path implied by the satellite data.

Another piece of interesting information posted on CNN this evening is the suggestion that because of the flight stabilization algorithms in the 777 control software, that at least some of the movements of MH370, including substantial changes in altitude, and occasional changes in direction are consistent with uncontrolled flightwithout the autopilot engaged. This leaves the possibility of either a murder suicide on the flight deck, or one pilot barricading the other off the flight deck, perhaps followed by suicide. And as previously mooted, the possibility of the plane being taken to high altitude, whether accidentally or deliberately, would have caused everyone to pass out. Given that there doesn't appear to be a happy ending possible for this story, I believe that knowing that everyone on board flight MH370 was unconscious is perhaps as good an ending as we can now hope for?

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